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	<title>Comments on: OT Lesson 4 Study Notes: Moses 4; 5:1-15; 6:48-62</title>
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		<title>By: JoeSwiss</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;ideas of what the “it” in v6 is.&quot;

don&#039;t look backward for antecedents, rather, look forward (it = &quot;to beguile Eve&quot;):

here it is, with a couple of extra helpful dashes:

And Satan put it into the heart of the serpent, (for he had drawn away many after him), -- and he sought also -- to beguile Eve ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ideas of what the “it” in v6 is.&#8221;</p>
<p>don&#8217;t look backward for antecedents, rather, look forward (it = &#8220;to beguile Eve&#8221;):</p>
<p>here it is, with a couple of extra helpful dashes:</p>
<p>And Satan put it into the heart of the serpent, (for he had drawn away many after him), &#8212; and he sought also &#8212; to beguile Eve &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#14 carolineb, great Nibley quote, and I would concur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 carolineb, great Nibley quote, and I would concur.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, I&#039;m grateful for these posts.  They snap me out of my habit of too-often sleep-walking through the scriptures.

One thing I think about in these verses: in Moses 4:27 when God clothes Adam and Eve with &quot;coats of skins,&quot; might that have been the first time Adam and Eve saw something killed?  And what would it be like to witness violence for the first time?  What could the sacrificed animal be designed to teach Adam and Eve?  What extra meaning does that give to the clothes Adam and Eve wear?  I think Adam and Eve must have remembered that animal&#039;s death for their sake every time they put on those clothes and were grateful for protection from cold, rain, thorns, and so on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, I&#8217;m grateful for these posts.  They snap me out of my habit of too-often sleep-walking through the scriptures.</p>
<p>One thing I think about in these verses: in Moses 4:27 when God clothes Adam and Eve with &#8220;coats of skins,&#8221; might that have been the first time Adam and Eve saw something killed?  And what would it be like to witness violence for the first time?  What could the sacrificed animal be designed to teach Adam and Eve?  What extra meaning does that give to the clothes Adam and Eve wear?  I think Adam and Eve must have remembered that animal&#8217;s death for their sake every time they put on those clothes and were grateful for protection from cold, rain, thorns, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: carolineb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I often wonder while I&#039;m in the temple about Eve&#039;s real misstep in taking the fruit, especially since after she does this, we, as women are given a less direct access to God on multiple levels. I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that Eve went wrong when she didn&#039;t CONSULT with Adam--when she went off and did what she knew was the &quot;right thing&quot; instead of working in a partnership. I think as we take steps in the temple to a place closer to God, we see that one key purpose of the &quot;great and everlasting covenant&quot; is to &quot;receive&quot; one another and to become ONE. This, of course, is an essential step in becoming God&#039;s ourselves....something we don&#039;t talk about too openly in our church anymore. Perhaps the consequences of the fall that God places on Eve (ie, the man will rule, or preside) provides the greatest chance of this ONENESS to occur. 

Along these lines, I like what Hugh Nibley says here:
There is no patriarchy or matriarchy in the Garden; the two supervise each other. Adam is given no arbitrary power; Eve is to heed him only insofar as he obeys their Father”and who decides that? She must keep check on him as much as he does on her. It is, if you will, a system of checks and balances in which each party is as distinct and independent in its sphere as are the departments of government under the Constitution”and just as dependent on each other. (Hugh Nibley, “Patriarchy and Matriarchy,” Old Testament and Related Studies, page 92f.)

I find this interesting because so many outside the church ( and in) lament the idea that our church keeps women down. While I do agree that there are things in our church culture that are dysfunctional, I think that the deeper doctrine is waiting to enlighten us, if we let it.  Here, hugh Nibley is saying that if we understood the temple better, we would understand the how a true male/female partnership should be played out. I think many LDS marriages could benefit from a greater sense of the ONENESS that is paramount in progressing in this life and the next. 

Just thoughts stewing in my head as I prepare my lesson.    Anyone care to elaborate??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder while I&#8217;m in the temple about Eve&#8217;s real misstep in taking the fruit, especially since after she does this, we, as women are given a less direct access to God on multiple levels. I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that Eve went wrong when she didn&#8217;t CONSULT with Adam&#8211;when she went off and did what she knew was the &#8220;right thing&#8221; instead of working in a partnership. I think as we take steps in the temple to a place closer to God, we see that one key purpose of the &#8220;great and everlasting covenant&#8221; is to &#8220;receive&#8221; one another and to become ONE. This, of course, is an essential step in becoming God&#8217;s ourselves&#8230;.something we don&#8217;t talk about too openly in our church anymore. Perhaps the consequences of the fall that God places on Eve (ie, the man will rule, or preside) provides the greatest chance of this ONENESS to occur. </p>
<p>Along these lines, I like what Hugh Nibley says here:<br />
There is no patriarchy or matriarchy in the Garden; the two supervise each other. Adam is given no arbitrary power; Eve is to heed him only insofar as he obeys their Father”and who decides that? She must keep check on him as much as he does on her. It is, if you will, a system of checks and balances in which each party is as distinct and independent in its sphere as are the departments of government under the Constitution”and just as dependent on each other. (Hugh Nibley, “Patriarchy and Matriarchy,” Old Testament and Related Studies, page 92f.)</p>
<p>I find this interesting because so many outside the church ( and in) lament the idea that our church keeps women down. While I do agree that there are things in our church culture that are dysfunctional, I think that the deeper doctrine is waiting to enlighten us, if we let it.  Here, hugh Nibley is saying that if we understood the temple better, we would understand the how a true male/female partnership should be played out. I think many LDS marriages could benefit from a greater sense of the ONENESS that is paramount in progressing in this life and the next. </p>
<p>Just thoughts stewing in my head as I prepare my lesson.    Anyone care to elaborate??</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to make myself clear I am speaking of right and wrong in a temporal sense. This would be dealing with questions like: Is the death penalty wrong? Can I drink alcohol? Is it ok to have more than one wife? Questions like that.

I want to make clear that in an eternal sense there is a perfect way to understand stand the ultimate good and evil. I think that comes through the temple. However, I still hold to the same model. Obedience bring knowledge. This knowledge includes (in an eternal sense) the ultimate understanding of good and evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make myself clear I am speaking of right and wrong in a temporal sense. This would be dealing with questions like: Is the death penalty wrong? Can I drink alcohol? Is it ok to have more than one wife? Questions like that.</p>
<p>I want to make clear that in an eternal sense there is a perfect way to understand stand the ultimate good and evil. I think that comes through the temple. However, I still hold to the same model. Obedience bring knowledge. This knowledge includes (in an eternal sense) the ultimate understanding of good and evil.</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KirkC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 4:20 we find that Satan is cured to eat &quot;dust...all the days of thy life.&quot; In 4:25 we find that Adam was was made from the dust of the ground, and will eventually return to the dust of the ground. 

Anyone see a connection between the dust that Satan is cursed to eat and the dust from which Adam is created?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 4:20 we find that Satan is cured to eat &#8220;dust&#8230;all the days of thy life.&#8221; In 4:25 we find that Adam was was made from the dust of the ground, and will eventually return to the dust of the ground. </p>
<p>Anyone see a connection between the dust that Satan is cursed to eat and the dust from which Adam is created?</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4:19 Have Adam and the Woman done something wrong? After all, Moses 5:10-11 shows that it was good that these things (as a whole) happened.

Often in church I hear something to the effect of, &quot;Eve did not sin because _______&quot; (fill in the blank). Mormons are over-protective of Eve.

In v18-20, it appears nobody wants to take the blame. Adam blames Eve, Eve blames the serpent, and we know Satan never fesses up to anything he does. In fact, blame might be the wrong word here, responsibility might be a better fit. 

Are Adam and Eve blessed after leaving the Garden? Yes, because it takes awhile. The blessings do not come until Adam and Eve come to a knowledge of what is really going on. In chapter 5 an angel visits them (v6), the Holy Ghost comes (v9), and then Adam and Eve see that their transgression has been turned into good. 

Did Adam and Eve repent? I think they did. Thus, the forgiveness in 6:53. If Adam and Eve would not have repented, then I do not think their transgression would have ever been for their good. In fact, without repentance ch. 5 never happens at all.  

So, did Adam and Eve do something wrong? Yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4:19 Have Adam and the Woman done something wrong? After all, Moses 5:10-11 shows that it was good that these things (as a whole) happened.</p>
<p>Often in church I hear something to the effect of, &#8220;Eve did not sin because _______&#8221; (fill in the blank). Mormons are over-protective of Eve.</p>
<p>In v18-20, it appears nobody wants to take the blame. Adam blames Eve, Eve blames the serpent, and we know Satan never fesses up to anything he does. In fact, blame might be the wrong word here, responsibility might be a better fit. </p>
<p>Are Adam and Eve blessed after leaving the Garden? Yes, because it takes awhile. The blessings do not come until Adam and Eve come to a knowledge of what is really going on. In chapter 5 an angel visits them (v6), the Holy Ghost comes (v9), and then Adam and Eve see that their transgression has been turned into good. </p>
<p>Did Adam and Eve repent? I think they did. Thus, the forgiveness in 6:53. If Adam and Eve would not have repented, then I do not think their transgression would have ever been for their good. In fact, without repentance ch. 5 never happens at all.  </p>
<p>So, did Adam and Eve do something wrong? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KirkC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[6:12, What is the point of the series that Eve goes through before we get to the phrase “did eat”? What does the woman see when she looks at the tree that she didn’t see before? What makes her think that the fruit is good to eat? Why is it good to eat? What does it mean that it is pleasant to the eyes? What is the woman doing in making these observations?

The longer Eve talks with Satan the more she thinks he starts to make sense. I think this is the same in our lives. The longer we dabble in sin and hang out in places we should not be, the more likely we are to fall into the ways of &quot;the world.&quot; The more you seriously contemplate the pros of breaking the commandments, the more likely you are to actually break them. 

For example, if you own a store and think about all the reasons it would be good to be open on Sunday, more than likely you will eventual come around to being open on Sunday; because you are continually having an open dialogue with Satan about the issue. Eve does the same thing. Eve does not cast Satan away, but listens until he starts to make sense, and his ideas become her ideas. 

In v6 Satan put something/&quot;it&quot; into the &quot;heart&quot; of the serpent. I think he put something into the &quot;heart&quot; of Eve, and puts things into our &quot;hearts&quot; if we let him.

PS I&#039;d love to hear ideas of what the &quot;it&quot; in v6 is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6:12, What is the point of the series that Eve goes through before we get to the phrase “did eat”? What does the woman see when she looks at the tree that she didn’t see before? What makes her think that the fruit is good to eat? Why is it good to eat? What does it mean that it is pleasant to the eyes? What is the woman doing in making these observations?</p>
<p>The longer Eve talks with Satan the more she thinks he starts to make sense. I think this is the same in our lives. The longer we dabble in sin and hang out in places we should not be, the more likely we are to fall into the ways of &#8220;the world.&#8221; The more you seriously contemplate the pros of breaking the commandments, the more likely you are to actually break them. </p>
<p>For example, if you own a store and think about all the reasons it would be good to be open on Sunday, more than likely you will eventual come around to being open on Sunday; because you are continually having an open dialogue with Satan about the issue. Eve does the same thing. Eve does not cast Satan away, but listens until he starts to make sense, and his ideas become her ideas. </p>
<p>In v6 Satan put something/&#8221;it&#8221; into the &#8220;heart&#8221; of the serpent. I think he put something into the &#8220;heart&#8221; of Eve, and puts things into our &#8220;hearts&#8221; if we let him.</p>
<p>PS I&#8217;d love to hear ideas of what the &#8220;it&#8221; in v6 is.</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KirkC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#8, Tom. 

Here is a great quote from JS on knowledge.

&quot;Knowledge is power and the man who has the most knowledge has the greatest power...The reason why God is greater than all others is He knows how to subject all things to himself.&quot;

Therefore, knowledge has everything to do with power, and less to do with &quot;right and wrong.&quot; God gave Adam power of the &quot;beasts of the field&quot;, but he did not yet have the knowledge necessary to complete his task in the best fashion.

What is morally right and wrong (and good and evil) seem to change every generation. So where does knowledge then come from?
I think the answer to that question has always been the same, obedience.

Obedience brings knowledge. Knowing right from wrong is less important then being obedient to God, because only obedience to God gives true knowledge.

I hope this answer does not seem to convoluted, I am just writing off the top of my head here (and sorry for the lack of references)!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, Tom. </p>
<p>Here is a great quote from JS on knowledge.</p>
<p>&#8220;Knowledge is power and the man who has the most knowledge has the greatest power&#8230;The reason why God is greater than all others is He knows how to subject all things to himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Therefore, knowledge has everything to do with power, and less to do with &#8220;right and wrong.&#8221; God gave Adam power of the &#8220;beasts of the field&#8221;, but he did not yet have the knowledge necessary to complete his task in the best fashion.</p>
<p>What is morally right and wrong (and good and evil) seem to change every generation. So where does knowledge then come from?<br />
I think the answer to that question has always been the same, obedience.</p>
<p>Obedience brings knowledge. Knowing right from wrong is less important then being obedient to God, because only obedience to God gives true knowledge.</p>
<p>I hope this answer does not seem to convoluted, I am just writing off the top of my head here (and sorry for the lack of references)!</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KirkC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4:10-11, What is the serpent saying when he says, “Ye shall not surely die”? What kind of doubt is he trying to plant?

Continuing with my thoughts above, Satan wants Eve to think nothing in this world is &quot;for sure.&quot; I read the passage as saying something like, &quot;Come on now Eve, you cannot know for sure that you will die! Nobody can tell the future!&quot; 

I believe that Satan wants us to believe that true knowledge is unattainable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4:10-11, What is the serpent saying when he says, “Ye shall not surely die”? What kind of doubt is he trying to plant?</p>
<p>Continuing with my thoughts above, Satan wants Eve to think nothing in this world is &#8220;for sure.&#8221; I read the passage as saying something like, &#8220;Come on now Eve, you cannot know for sure that you will die! Nobody can tell the future!&#8221; </p>
<p>I believe that Satan wants us to believe that true knowledge is unattainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kirk, interesting insight. I&#039;ve been thinking about what it means to have knowledge of good and evil. In a previous comment, I asked how, without this knowledge of good and evil, Adam and Eve could be accountable for their evil act of partaking the fruit. But someone pointed out that knowledge of good and evil isn&#039;t the same as knowledge of right and wrong. So what does it mean to have knowledge of good and evil? We always talk about this nonchalantly, but it&#039;s really vague when you try to pin down its meaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk, interesting insight. I&#8217;ve been thinking about what it means to have knowledge of good and evil. In a previous comment, I asked how, without this knowledge of good and evil, Adam and Eve could be accountable for their evil act of partaking the fruit. But someone pointed out that knowledge of good and evil isn&#8217;t the same as knowledge of right and wrong. So what does it mean to have knowledge of good and evil? We always talk about this nonchalantly, but it&#8217;s really vague when you try to pin down its meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: KirkC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KirkC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4:8-9, Why does the woman emphasize that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is in the middle of the Garden? How is its position relevant to our understanding?

Everything revolves around knowledge. To learn knowledge is to die and become a new person. In v6 we find that Satan &quot;knew not the mind of God.&quot; Therefore, Satan never had this transforming experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4:8-9, Why does the woman emphasize that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is in the middle of the Garden? How is its position relevant to our understanding?</p>
<p>Everything revolves around knowledge. To learn knowledge is to die and become a new person. In v6 we find that Satan &#8220;knew not the mind of God.&#8221; Therefore, Satan never had this transforming experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of the questions you raise deal with the language used -- for example, the &quot;sin conceiveth in their hearts&quot; verse. If you look at 6:6, it refers to a time when language was &quot;pure and undefined.&quot; When the Fall took place, not only did our bodies become mortal and subject to the temptations of the natural man, language also became fallen as well. Because of this, we might expect that some of the language of the scriptures is slippery, vague, or otherwise imperfect. Given that our language is impure and defiled, a phrase like &quot;sin conceiveth in their hearts&quot; might be unavoidably imprecise in meaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the questions you raise deal with the language used &#8212; for example, the &#8220;sin conceiveth in their hearts&#8221; verse. If you look at 6:6, it refers to a time when language was &#8220;pure and undefined.&#8221; When the Fall took place, not only did our bodies become mortal and subject to the temptations of the natural man, language also became fallen as well. Because of this, we might expect that some of the language of the scriptures is slippery, vague, or otherwise imperfect. Given that our language is impure and defiled, a phrase like &#8220;sin conceiveth in their hearts&#8221; might be unavoidably imprecise in meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, I really enjoy all the thought provoking questions you raise. It&#039;s interesting to see your reading of these verses. There&#039;s a lot here, and you show us that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I really enjoy all the thought provoking questions you raise. It&#8217;s interesting to see your reading of these verses. There&#8217;s a lot here, and you show us that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2010/01/16/ot-lesson-4-study-notes-moses-4-51-15-648-62/#comment-30005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re right, whatever we attribute it to (&quot;fallen state&quot; or something else), it is a mistake to blame our sins on Satan. See James 1:14.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right, whatever we attribute it to (&#8220;fallen state&#8221; or something else), it is a mistake to blame our sins on Satan. See James 1:14.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2010/01/16/ot-lesson-4-study-notes-moses-4-51-15-648-62/#comment-30004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a bad idea!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2010/01/16/ot-lesson-4-study-notes-moses-4-51-15-648-62/#comment-30003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for reading the post. I hope you find it useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for reading the post. I hope you find it useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, these are questions I&#039;ve created as I&#039;ve read. Thanks for looking at them. I hope they are useful to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, these are questions I&#8217;ve created as I&#8217;ve read. Thanks for looking at them. I hope they are useful to you.</p>
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		<title>By: RobF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RobF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee Jim, with all this to consider, maybe we should spend the whole year just on this chapter :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Jim, with all this to consider, maybe we should spend the whole year just on this chapter :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Johnson</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2010/01/16/ot-lesson-4-study-notes-moses-4-51-15-648-62/#comment-29980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Moses 5, Satan plays a prominent role in tempting the sons and daughters of Adam. From a doctrinal point of view, how do we know whether our poor choices to sin are the result of subtle temptations from Satan or simply poor choices based on our carnal, temporal nature and the randomness of mortal life? Is there a danger is adopting a devil-made-me-do-it attitude about every bad choice in life we make? I sometimes feel that we overplay the Satan card. Aren&#039;t we simply in a fallen state?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Moses 5, Satan plays a prominent role in tempting the sons and daughters of Adam. From a doctrinal point of view, how do we know whether our poor choices to sin are the result of subtle temptations from Satan or simply poor choices based on our carnal, temporal nature and the randomness of mortal life? Is there a danger is adopting a devil-made-me-do-it attitude about every bad choice in life we make? I sometimes feel that we overplay the Satan card. Aren&#8217;t we simply in a fallen state?</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2010/01/16/ot-lesson-4-study-notes-moses-4-51-15-648-62/#comment-29978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for posting this.. This is amazing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this.. This is amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron N.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2010/01/16/ot-lesson-4-study-notes-moses-4-51-15-648-62/#comment-29948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cameron N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is amazing. Are these just questions from your personal study? Thank you for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing. Are these just questions from your personal study? Thank you for this.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OT Lesson 4 Study Notes: Moses 4; 5:1-15; 6:48-62 &#124; Times &#38; Seasons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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