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		<title>By: An Overview of Genesis &#124; Times &#38; Seasons</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An Overview of Genesis &#124; Times &#38; Seasons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, these are very helpful additions. You&#039;re right, by &quot;interruption&quot; I meant that the Judah / Tamar story interrupts the narrative as we might expect it. As such an interruption it demands our attention, forcing the kinds of questions and observations you offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, these are very helpful additions. You&#8217;re right, by &#8220;interruption&#8221; I meant that the Judah / Tamar story interrupts the narrative as we might expect it. As such an interruption it demands our attention, forcing the kinds of questions and observations you offer.</p>
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		<title>By: joespencer</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29382</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good stuff, Jim. Two notes:

(1) I found it interesting that you described the Judah/Tamar story as an interruption. Isn&#039;t it more common to take it as an integral part of the Joseph story, given (a) the role Judah plays at the beginning and end of that story, (b) the obvious comparison narratively being drawn between Joseph&#039;s fidelity vis-a-vis Potiphar&#039;s wife and Judah&#039;s infidelity vis-a-vis Tamar, and (c) the appearance in the Judah/Tamar story of the goat? Of course you might simply have meant by &quot;interrupt&quot; not that the Judah/Tamar story is out of place, but that it &lt;i&gt;apparent&lt;/i&gt; out-of-placeness forces one to recognize Judah&#039;s important place in the story.

While I&#039;m at it, I really like the question of the goat in the Joseph story. The first goat in the Joseph story is killed and its blood is applied to Joseph&#039;s coat. The second goat Judah leads out from his home to leave with the harlot (in the wilderness, as it were). I imagine that there is a deliberate echo here of Leviticus 16, the Day of Atonement, emphasizing the reconciliation at the end of the story.

(2) Another way of making sense of the threefold structure of Genesis is to map it onto the threefold structure of the entire Hebrew Bible: Genesis 1-11 as founding narrative and torah (the &quot;mythical&quot; stretch of the book); Genesis 12-36 as prophetic intervention in the promised land (Abraham of course, but also note Jacob&#039;s &quot;exile&quot; in Babylon, etc.); and Genesis 37-50 as wisdom and historical writing (with the twelve sons we are finally in the realm of Israelite history, and it is, of course, standard to read the Joseph narrative as a narrative of the &quot;child of wisdom,&quot; etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good stuff, Jim. Two notes:</p>
<p>(1) I found it interesting that you described the Judah/Tamar story as an interruption. Isn&#8217;t it more common to take it as an integral part of the Joseph story, given (a) the role Judah plays at the beginning and end of that story, (b) the obvious comparison narratively being drawn between Joseph&#8217;s fidelity vis-a-vis Potiphar&#8217;s wife and Judah&#8217;s infidelity vis-a-vis Tamar, and (c) the appearance in the Judah/Tamar story of the goat? Of course you might simply have meant by &#8220;interrupt&#8221; not that the Judah/Tamar story is out of place, but that it <i>apparent</i> out-of-placeness forces one to recognize Judah&#8217;s important place in the story.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m at it, I really like the question of the goat in the Joseph story. The first goat in the Joseph story is killed and its blood is applied to Joseph&#8217;s coat. The second goat Judah leads out from his home to leave with the harlot (in the wilderness, as it were). I imagine that there is a deliberate echo here of Leviticus 16, the Day of Atonement, emphasizing the reconciliation at the end of the story.</p>
<p>(2) Another way of making sense of the threefold structure of Genesis is to map it onto the threefold structure of the entire Hebrew Bible: Genesis 1-11 as founding narrative and torah (the &#8220;mythical&#8221; stretch of the book); Genesis 12-36 as prophetic intervention in the promised land (Abraham of course, but also note Jacob&#8217;s &#8220;exile&#8221; in Babylon, etc.); and Genesis 37-50 as wisdom and historical writing (with the twelve sons we are finally in the realm of Israelite history, and it is, of course, standard to read the Joseph narrative as a narrative of the &#8220;child of wisdom,&#8221; etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great addition, Robert.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great addition, Robert.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert C.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Jim. These are great notes.

In terms of your III.E., I&#039;ve read a little bit about ways to understand the New Testament in light of Old Testament patterns and prophecies, and the following extension of your 4 points occurred to me as possibly interesting--first your 4 points:

1. From creation and covenant (the creation story and Adam and Eve)
   
2. To degeneration (from Adam to Noah)

3. To covenant (Abraham)

4. To the blessings of covenant in family (from Abraham to Joseph)

Then:

5. From Joseph to the world/Gentiles (and Joseph&#039;s blessing specifically mentions the multitude of nations), which is an idea made explicit in Paul&#039;s writings

6. From the Gentiles back to the Israelites (incl. Jews), as prophesied in the Book of Mormon (i.e., regeneration, if related chiastically back to point 2 above)

7. To Adam-Ondi-Ahman / Millenial gathering, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jim. These are great notes.</p>
<p>In terms of your III.E., I&#8217;ve read a little bit about ways to understand the New Testament in light of Old Testament patterns and prophecies, and the following extension of your 4 points occurred to me as possibly interesting&#8211;first your 4 points:</p>
<p>1. From creation and covenant (the creation story and Adam and Eve)</p>
<p>2. To degeneration (from Adam to Noah)</p>
<p>3. To covenant (Abraham)</p>
<p>4. To the blessings of covenant in family (from Abraham to Joseph)</p>
<p>Then:</p>
<p>5. From Joseph to the world/Gentiles (and Joseph&#8217;s blessing specifically mentions the multitude of nations), which is an idea made explicit in Paul&#8217;s writings</p>
<p>6. From the Gentiles back to the Israelites (incl. Jews), as prophesied in the Book of Mormon (i.e., regeneration, if related chiastically back to point 2 above)</p>
<p>7. To Adam-Ondi-Ahman / Millenial gathering, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim F.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are several places with stray bullet points or list numbers at the beginning of lists. I can&#039;t figure out why they are there, so I don&#039;t know how to get rid of them. Sorry about that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several places with stray bullet points or list numbers at the beginning of lists. I can&#8217;t figure out why they are there, so I don&#8217;t know how to get rid of them. Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/12/20/genesis-jim-f/#comment-29337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad to see these collected and revisited in one place, since I&#039;ve been collecting links and resources for Patheos&#039; OT background posts.
Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see these collected and revisited in one place, since I&#8217;ve been collecting links and resources for Patheos&#8217; OT background posts.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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