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	<title>Comments on: Rejoice! for Barabbas goes free!</title>
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		<title>By: Choshek</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-30415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Choshek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barabbas was Jesus. It&#039;s Aramaic for &quot;Son of the Father&quot;. Jesus was considered a seditious revolutionary, and murderer of traditional Judeo-Roman social values. There was no custom of releasing a Roman prisoner on Passover; the pilgrim multitudes spontaneously demanded his release.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barabbas was Jesus. It&#8217;s Aramaic for &#8220;Son of the Father&#8221;. Jesus was considered a seditious revolutionary, and murderer of traditional Judeo-Roman social values. There was no custom of releasing a Roman prisoner on Passover; the pilgrim multitudes spontaneously demanded his release.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blake: glad you found it interesting. Re: the two scape-goats, as I hinted in #6, I&#039;m not sure how well the &quot;atonement goats&quot; typify Christ. To elaborate a bit, I think the clearest Christ figure on that day is the high priest who manages the goats, parts the veil, appears before God, and in the end cleanses the people. If pressed, I&#039;m not sure which of the two goats I would say better typifies Christ&#039;s mission. Can you expound on why you choose the one that carries only &quot;innocent sins&quot; and not the one that carries &quot;real sins&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake: glad you found it interesting. Re: the two scape-goats, as I hinted in #6, I&#8217;m not sure how well the &#8220;atonement goats&#8221; typify Christ. To elaborate a bit, I think the clearest Christ figure on that day is the high priest who manages the goats, parts the veil, appears before God, and in the end cleanses the people. If pressed, I&#8217;m not sure which of the two goats I would say better typifies Christ&#8217;s mission. Can you expound on why you choose the one that carries only &#8220;innocent sins&#8221; and not the one that carries &#8220;real sins&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BrianJ: Interesting observations. I always thought that the story of Barabbas was about the parallel to the Israelite ceremony of the two goats released on the Day of Atonement set forth in Lev. 16. The sins are laid on one goat that is driven into the wilderness. But there is another goat as well. This goat is &quot;for the Lord&quot; and is sacrificed to the Lord.

In the time of Christ, it is probable that the goat &quot;for Azazel&quot; was lead out the east gate of the temple (the Nikanor gate) and led off a cliff. It bore the sins of the people to death. However, it appears that the other goat was offered as a sacrifice. Barabbas represents the goat that was released that really was sinful while the other goat is lead to the sacrifice given for God. I know that the usual modern interpretation is that the goat &quot;for Azazel&quot; is the symbol of Christ bearing away the sins of the people, but it seems to me that point of the narrative regarding Barabbas is included to show that the real sacrifice given &quot;for the Lord&quot; is not the one that goes free while still in sin, but the one that is sacrificed &quot;for the Lord&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianJ: Interesting observations. I always thought that the story of Barabbas was about the parallel to the Israelite ceremony of the two goats released on the Day of Atonement set forth in Lev. 16. The sins are laid on one goat that is driven into the wilderness. But there is another goat as well. This goat is &#8220;for the Lord&#8221; and is sacrificed to the Lord.</p>
<p>In the time of Christ, it is probable that the goat &#8220;for Azazel&#8221; was lead out the east gate of the temple (the Nikanor gate) and led off a cliff. It bore the sins of the people to death. However, it appears that the other goat was offered as a sacrifice. Barabbas represents the goat that was released that really was sinful while the other goat is lead to the sacrifice given for God. I know that the usual modern interpretation is that the goat &#8220;for Azazel&#8221; is the symbol of Christ bearing away the sins of the people, but it seems to me that point of the narrative regarding Barabbas is included to show that the real sacrifice given &#8220;for the Lord&#8221; is not the one that goes free while still in sin, but the one that is sacrificed &#8220;for the Lord&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brooks: Thanks for making the point about Christ freeing all of us from physical death, regardless of our spiritual state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooks: Thanks for making the point about Christ freeing all of us from physical death, regardless of our spiritual state.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks Peacock</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooks Peacock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I have read through the comments, I come back to a more general relationship in the story. Christ atoned not only for our individual sins/spiritual death but also for mankind&#039;s physical separation/physical death.  

Barabbas, despite his lack of any apparant moral fortitude, is allowed to go free and is released from a physical death, at that particular time anyway.  We too are released from the results of physical death through the atoning sacrifice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have read through the comments, I come back to a more general relationship in the story. Christ atoned not only for our individual sins/spiritual death but also for mankind&#8217;s physical separation/physical death.  </p>
<p>Barabbas, despite his lack of any apparant moral fortitude, is allowed to go free and is released from a physical death, at that particular time anyway.  We too are released from the results of physical death through the atoning sacrifice.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dunton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Dunton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most surprising thing is that &quot;apposed&quot; is really a word! I had to look it up. The post and all the comments were very thought-provoking. I agree with Kent (MC). Barabbas can go his way, but he must sin no more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most surprising thing is that &#8220;apposed&#8221; is really a word! I had to look it up. The post and all the comments were very thought-provoking. I agree with Kent (MC). Barabbas can go his way, but he must sin no more.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keri, Brian: thanks!

Kent: yeah, the authors don&#039;t give us any information about Barabbas&#039; attitude. But suppose that someday we observe Jesus letting a non-repentant Barabbas go free; should we rejoice or be angry?

Rameumptom: interesting thoughts about the goat for Azazel--the &quot;scapegoat.&quot; Leviticus 16 illustrates an important difference between the two goats: the one that is sacrificed was made as a sin-offering, whereas the other carried the people&#039;s iniquities into the wilderness. Sin-offerings, it should be noted, were not made for sins as we think of the term, but rather for unintentional mistakes and ritual uncleanness. (Thus, it is perhaps better to refer to the first goat as a &quot;purification&quot; offering.) The second goat carried the real sins of the people---sins as we think of the word---and was sent away into the wilderness where it would undoubtedly die. The point was not to release the second goat into a life of freedom, but to send it far away. Both goats carried sins, both goats died.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keri, Brian: thanks!</p>
<p>Kent: yeah, the authors don&#8217;t give us any information about Barabbas&#8217; attitude. But suppose that someday we observe Jesus letting a non-repentant Barabbas go free; should we rejoice or be angry?</p>
<p>Rameumptom: interesting thoughts about the goat for Azazel&#8211;the &#8220;scapegoat.&#8221; Leviticus 16 illustrates an important difference between the two goats: the one that is sacrificed was made as a sin-offering, whereas the other carried the people&#8217;s iniquities into the wilderness. Sin-offerings, it should be noted, were not made for sins as we think of the term, but rather for unintentional mistakes and ritual uncleanness. (Thus, it is perhaps better to refer to the first goat as a &#8220;purification&#8221; offering.) The second goat carried the real sins of the people&#8212;sins as we think of the word&#8212;and was sent away into the wilderness where it would undoubtedly die. The point was not to release the second goat into a life of freedom, but to send it far away. Both goats carried sins, both goats died.</p>
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		<title>By: Rameumptom</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rameumptom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about the Jewish concept of the two goats.  One goat carries the sins and is set free.  The other is sacrificed for the sins of the people.  In this instance, we have two &quot;sons of the Father&quot; as the goats.  Barabbas would truly carry his own sins back to his wilderness area (where as a zealot he would continue fighting the Romans), while Jesus remained as the great sacrifice for all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the Jewish concept of the two goats.  One goat carries the sins and is set free.  The other is sacrificed for the sins of the people.  In this instance, we have two &#8220;sons of the Father&#8221; as the goats.  Barabbas would truly carry his own sins back to his wilderness area (where as a zealot he would continue fighting the Romans), while Jesus remained as the great sacrifice for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent (MC)</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent (MC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Barabbas was repentant then the analogy would work very well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Barabbas was repentant then the analogy would work very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Duffin</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Duffin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used Elder Holland&#039;s talk as my HT message for May and had similar thoughts as you on the subject. The scriptures are filled with cruel ironies. Great post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Elder Holland&#8217;s talk as my HT message for May and had similar thoughts as you on the subject. The scriptures are filled with cruel ironies. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Keri Brooks</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keri Brooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never thought about it this way before, but you make a great point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never thought about it this way before, but you make a great point.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
		<link>http://feastuponthewordblog.org/2009/06/02/rejoice-for-barabbas-goes-free/#comment-28190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, I&#039;ll be careful here and point out that a metaphor can only go so far; if Barabbas was truly guilty of murder---or &quot;terrorism&quot; as some translations render it---then we have to let the analogy fall short or openly embrace releasing violent criminals into our streets. Perhaps it goes without saying, but I&#039;m viewing this &quot;spiritually rather than temporally.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I&#8217;ll be careful here and point out that a metaphor can only go so far; if Barabbas was truly guilty of murder&#8212;or &#8220;terrorism&#8221; as some translations render it&#8212;then we have to let the analogy fall short or openly embrace releasing violent criminals into our streets. Perhaps it goes without saying, but I&#8217;m viewing this &#8220;spiritually rather than temporally.&#8221;</p>
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